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David Dalrymple on Safeguarded, Transformative AI
9 January, 2025
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David "davidad" Dalrymple joins the podcast to explore Safeguarded AI — an approach to ensuring the safety of highly advanced AI systems. We discuss the structure and layers of Safeguarded AI, how to formalize more aspects of the world, and how to build safety into computer hardware.
You can learn more about David's work here: https://www.aria.org.uk/opportunity-spaces/mathematics-for-safe-ai/safeguarded-ai/
Timestamps:
00:00 What is Safeguarded AI?
16:28 Implementing Safeguarded AI
22:58 Can we trust Safeguarded AIs?
31:00 Formalizing more of the world
37:34 The performance cost of verified AI
47:58 Changing attitudes towards AI
52:39 Flexible Hardware-Enabled Guarantees
01:24:15 Mind uploading
01:36:14 Lessons from David's early life
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